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War, what is it good for?

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Do you think we can agree that there is a difference between the average Muslim and an extremist jihadi?
I don't know. I have yet to see a moderate muslim denounce, or blame extreme muslims for the plight they're in. It's hard to seperate them, when they won't separate themselves. I don't trust any of them, and until I see them stand up and fight to remove that label from themselves, I have to think they really aren't peaceful.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
It depends. Do you mean the end of the current bullshit going on, or the end of the world. I personally believe things have just started, and unfortunatly is going to get worse, before it gets better.
 

usman19

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
Do you think we can agree that there is a difference between the average Muslim and an extremist jihadi?
I get the distinction between the two after all as some may or may not know from my name alone, i am a ex muslim. Was raised in a muslim household in the uk.

The jihadi in itself is extreme so the idea of extremist jihadi is redundant as there isn't a peaceful one.

I think there is such a thing as a peacful or moderate/ average muslim, it just the media like to portray the violent one as that makes good headlines, ratings and helps their narrative as oppose to muslim media they portray western people as bad. All comes down to what side of the fence you are in.

Even though I'm not muslim, my family are and they are peacful. They not type to be intolerant of others but they will follow their faith more closely than me.

The stuff thats going on in gaza is a very sensitive issue so i want to be careful how i discuss the topic online as besides myself I don't know of anyone else from my similar background on here. Also I'm not an expert on poltiics etc.

I care about the Palestinian people like many, but that doesn't mean we are pro hamas despite what the media like to paint supporters as. From what I see the media are trying to show bias where 1 side is being silenced but the other isn't.
 
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usman19

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
I don't know. I have yet to see a moderate muslim denounce, or blame extreme muslims for the plight they're in. It's hard to seperate them, when they won't separate themselves. I don't trust any of them, and until I see them stand up and fight to remove that label from themselves, I have to think they really aren't peaceful.
I think they are but then again how will you see that if the media don't want to show that. Doesn't support their cause.

Many do like myself but that still doesn't mean non muslim thugs in the uk or anywhere else would think different.

Like some thugs got this idea in their head that the march going on in London today is anywhere near the armistice centopath, when it's not. So can imagine what riots can occur when pro palestinian marches are going on.
 

tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
It depends. Do you mean the end of the current bullshit going on, or the end of the world. I personally believe things have just started, and unfortunatly is going to get worse, before it gets better.
Endgame in Ukraine. I'd like to think the entire world hasn't gone to shit - yet.
Putsky being gone will likely solve that problem.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Endgame in Ukraine. I'd like to think the entire world hasn't gone to shit - yet.
Putsky being gone will likely solve that problem.
Well you know me, glass half empty.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Douglas Murray blasts Gazans for cheering on as woman paraded half-naked - Nov 8, 2023
 

tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
I care about the Palestinian people like many, but that doesn't mean we are pro hamas despite what the media like to paint supporters as.
You'd think it's not a hard concept to understand. It's like saying that you support Americans, so you automatically support trump.
 

usman19

Yes, I bribed and cheated to get this far
You'd think it's not a hard concept to understand. It's like saying that you support Americans, so you automatically support trump.
True but you know how fickle alot of people can be. If the media say anything people will automatically believe it and thats the worrying part.

Like previous post of mine, found out that the so called march that took place today, there was no prescence of thugs cause they arrived at the wrong area, so they were left disappointed.

All that hype going on everywhere and they all fell for it.
 

Supafly

Retired Morgenmuffel
Bronze Member
About the word "Palestine", the misconception, and other things.

 

LunaMo

I can use Pornography in a sentence!
It depends. Do you mean the end of the current bullshit going on, or the end of the world. I personally believe things have just started, and unfortunatly is going to get worse, before it gets better.

Yes, they need WW3 in order to make the changes that they're after
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Yes, they need WW3 in order to make the changes that they're after
Yeah, they do, and it's infuriating that, #1) they're getting away with it....and #2) we're letting them.
 

tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
Fun fact: hamas was elected in 2006 and there hasn't been an election since then.
Combine that with:
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So half of the population wasn't even born when they came into power, and even more weren't old enough to vote in that election.
 
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tvstrip

I changed my middle-name to Freeones
In the same way that hamas does NOT represent all Palestinians, bibi does not represent all Jews. And on that note, Jewish-Americans are showing their support for the ceasefire that joe refuses to talk about:

https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/nati...cle_88e94a16-649a-5045-950a-8e7880e1328a.html

Hundreds of Jewish peace activists and their allies converged at a major train station in downtown Chicago during rush hour Monday morning, blocking the entrance to the Israeli consulate and demanding U.S. support for an Israel cease-fire as battles rage in northern Gaza.

Advocacy group Jewish Voice for Peace led a similar sit-in in New York City’s Grand Central Station on Oct. 27, where a sea of protesters filled the main concourse during evening rush hour, chanting slogans and unfurling banners demanding a cease-fire as Israel intensified its bombardment of the Gaza Strip. At least 200 demonstrators were detained by New York police officers.

And more than 300 people were arrested in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 19 for illegally demonstrating, and three people were charged with assaulting police after protesters descended on Capitol Hill to call for a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
In the same way that hamas does NOT represent all Palestinians, bibi does not represent all Jews. And on that note, Jewish-Americans are showing their support for the ceasefire that joe refuses to talk about:

https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/nati...cle_88e94a16-649a-5045-950a-8e7880e1328a.html
But Israel doesn't want a ceasefire. Israel wants every Palestinian, out of Gaza, and the West Bank. Israel is surrounded by people that hate them just because they're Jews. They've been subject to many acts of aggression, and terror. The people running Israel now, were soldiers back in the 60's and 70's when the Six Days war, and the Yom Kippur war went on. They're still carrying that hatred, and vengeance inside them. That doesn't make rational thought an easy, or likely thing. I saw somewhere that hamas wants to exchange 50 or so hostages, for a 4 day ceasefire. Is this because they want to start a peace process, or because they need to regroup, or escape out the back door? For Israel's part in this, that huge population that wasn't even born yet, are now seeing why their people hate Israel, and why they commit acts of terrorism. In effect, Israel is perpetuating the continuing hatred, and violence that will plague the region until the end of days. It's a war of wills, and no one wins those. What I wonder is, what happens if Palestine gets a state, and is recognized as such by the rest of the world. Will all of the terror and hatred for Israel stop? Will Iran still be calling for their extermination? will all of the other muslim countries back off and coexist? Much of that has to start with the muslim people. They have to denounce radical islam, and their actions. Until that happens, and a clear separation between moderate, and radical muslims, I have little hope for a peaceful existence for anyone, including the United States.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Yes, they need WW3 in order to make the changes that they're after
After WW3 there won’t be anything left for ‘them’ to change. Can you expand on the changes they are after since you seem to have some insight? Also, who are ‘they’?
 
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